Even while hate continues to spew on the Toulouse shooting threads, the Huffington Post thought they'd engineer some more with an article about a Pentagon projection that an Israeli attack on Iran would hurt America. Long story short they believe that an attack could lead to a larger regional war that in turn could pull America in, which may be true but didn't happen with Iraq and Syria. Not exactly a shocking development. People have been saying the same thing for months now.
However, since this is the Huffington Post, the readership would not leave an opportunity to engage in the classic anti-Semitism that we usually see on Iran/Israel threads: AIPAC controls America, America is Israel's "lapdog," and despite full moderation naked anti-Semitism can still be found:
Here are some further sampling:
Must be more "criticism" of Israel's "policies."
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Tuesday, March 20, 2012
Rev. Naim Ateek Denies and Defends
In a repeat of many other articles of this time, the Reverend Dr. Naim Ateek has arrived on the Huffington Post specifically to defend himself from accusations made elsewhere. None of us knew about who he was or what he has been doing before this article, so it makes one wonder why the Huffington Post decided to give him a platform. This article is supposed to be an apology/defense from accusations made against him, but he also declares his vision of what a future peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians should look like. Most of the article is not controversial but some of it is, which is why I am writing about it. First of all, he declares himself the victim:
But his hypocrisy isn't even finished. Click below to read some more.
"I have now become the primary focus of JCRC attacks. In recent weeks, JCRC has sent letters to churches throughout Northern California charging me with using "abandoned anti-Semitic Christian theologies" and urging pastors to withhold support from the conferences...The first claims that I said, "Judaism is tribal; Christianity is universal. Judaism is wrong and was superseded by Christianity." The second claims that I said, "Jews killed Jesus.""I am always suspicious of second hand reporting of insults as the opportunity to strawman here is gaping. so I thought I would try to find one of these letters first hand (even though Rev Attek should have provided them himself). Alas I was unable to find them but what I did find was a briefing by the JCRC about this very subject. Leaving aside Rev. Ateek's defense of suicide bombers and his call for a "one state solution," let's focus upon the claims at hand. Here is a statement made by Rev. Ateek quoted from the JCRC:
"In this season of Lent, it seems to many of us that Jesus is on the crossHm. That seems to be that it's actually more offensive than saying that Judaism is tribal. Nor do I think it takes much imagination to see that he is engaging in rhetoric that it is at the very least Christian baiting (despicable in its own right but about normal for Palestinian apologists) but is rather anti-Semitic as well. What else did they find?
again with thousands of crucified Palestinians around him. It only takes
people of insight to see the hundreds of thousands of crosses throughout
the land, Palestinian men, women, and children being crucified.
Palestine has become one huge Golgatha. The Israeli government
crucifixion system is operating daily. Palestine has become the place of
the skull."
"At this Christmas time, when we remember the message of peace and loveThat sure sounds like "Jews killed Christ" to me. So how does Rev. Ateek defend himself? Let's ask him:
that came down from God to earth in the birth of Jesus Christ, our
celebrations are marred by the destructive powers of the modern day
“Herods” who are represented in the Israeli government."
"JCRC accuses me of saying that the "Jews killed Jesus," but I never use the word "Jews" in that context....In all of my preaching on this topic, I have never singled out Jews as killers of Jesus. I always refer to the Roman authorities in collusion with religious leaders. And I certainly have never suggested the abhorrent idea that Jews bear collective responsibility for the death of Jesus."In other words, the classic MJ Rosenbergian "I hate Zionists not Jews," argument. In which such tropes as "Zionists rule the world. I said Zionists not Jews." As long as the author is smart enough not to use the "J word" than anything goes. But let's get to his actual defense of the above statement:
"Likewise, my words that relate the events of the crucifixion to modern reality are clear and specific. I place the responsibility on the Israeli government. There is no mention of "the state of Israel." My words do not delegitimize the state, which is made up of the Israeli people. They critique the "government of Israel" and its policies, which constitute the greatest obstacles to peace."Ah yes, because if there's one debating point that is sure to win over your opponents it is the semantic argument. Look Rev. Ateek if you didn't mean it then you wouldn't have said it. And I notice that not even you deny that Israel is a democracy, so when you use such dehumanizing labels as "King Herod" directed at the Israeli government everyone knows that your ire is not limited to them. Shall we quote another speech of yours?
"The state of Israel has been brutally gunning down hundreds of people and injuring thousands whose only crime is their desire for a life of freedom and the independence of their own country from the oppressive occupation. King Herod allowed himself to stoop down to the basest of all feelings. He stripped himself of all semblance of humanity when he ordered the killing of innocent children. This scenario is being repeated in a different guise."His argument is built upon his choice of words. Well here you have it: "The state of Israel" murders hundreds of innocent victims. Not the people, the army, or the government, but that state itself. But as with many other Palestinian leaders, he says one thing to his actual people and another thing to the gullible readers on the Huffington Post who had probably never heard of him until today.
But his hypocrisy isn't even finished. Click below to read some more.
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Nazi Comparison Comments of the Day
From the aforementioned article about Israel arresting minors for throwing rocks and other crimes:
Because holding people responsible for their own actions is just like exterminating millions of people in gas chambers and trying to take over the world.
Stand by for MJ Rosenberg to never write an article on the left exploiting the Holocaust for their own ends.
Because holding people responsible for their own actions is just like exterminating millions of people in gas chambers and trying to take over the world.
Stand by for MJ Rosenberg to never write an article on the left exploiting the Holocaust for their own ends.
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HP Photo Bias: Toulouse Shooting (Part 2)
The Huffington Post published a follow up to the Toulouse shooting attack on the Jewish school and gave it top billing on the World section. So what's my reaction to it? Take a look:
I'm curious why a generic picture of a hand holding a handle was used as the picture for this article. If you click on the article itself we find the same slideshow of cops standing around that we had last time. Compare these pictures if you will to one from the Norway massacre of children last year:
And, of course, the Palestinians. Here is the picture from an article published a few days ago about Palestinian minors being arrested by Israel for such crimes as rock throwing:
And let's not forget such headlines as these either:
Meanwhile the Huffington Post has yet to publish any pictures of the victims of the Toulouse shooting, and probably never will. I was able to find some though. Very easily.
And while we're at it, here's some Jew baiting on the fully moderated thread:
(that last one is in response to a deleted comment that asked "do Jews film their attacks on Lebanese and Palestinians?")
And finally, because this is the Huffington Post, we have our obligatory "blame America" comment as well:
It's nice to see that refusing to hold people responsible for their own actions isn't strictly limited to Palestinains though.
I'm curious why a generic picture of a hand holding a handle was used as the picture for this article. If you click on the article itself we find the same slideshow of cops standing around that we had last time. Compare these pictures if you will to one from the Norway massacre of children last year:
And, of course, the Palestinians. Here is the picture from an article published a few days ago about Palestinian minors being arrested by Israel for such crimes as rock throwing:
And let's not forget such headlines as these either:
Meanwhile the Huffington Post has yet to publish any pictures of the victims of the Toulouse shooting, and probably never will. I was able to find some though. Very easily.
And while we're at it, here's some Jew baiting on the fully moderated thread:
(that last one is in response to a deleted comment that asked "do Jews film their attacks on Lebanese and Palestinians?")
It's nice to see that refusing to hold people responsible for their own actions isn't strictly limited to Palestinains though.
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Levy on Toulouse, the Hate Keeps Flowing
HP blogger Bernard Henri Levy wrote an article about the Toulouse shooting and more hate kept flowing. A lot of the hate this time derived from the fact that his op ed didn't also mention the uniformed French paratroopers killed by presumably the same attacker. Take a look for yourself:
No Jew baiting and personal attacks around here, just criticism of the author's argument!
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Monday, March 19, 2012
Toulouse Shooting: Hatred Comes Out
The news article of the shooting in Toulouse, France that claimed the lives of four people generated over 500 comments by the time this blog post is published. By my estimation, 75%+ of the comments in the fully moderated thread consisted of people speculated Muslims did it, and other people calling them racists for speculating that. Those original comments were quickly deleted. However, I did grab numerous anti-Semitic and anti-Israel comments, which is strange since we're always told Israel and Jews are completely separate and only Zionists conflate them. Let's take a look, shall we?
Here's probably the worst one of them all, eventually deleted:
This one was deleted as well:
Response to "the fruit of anti Israel propaganda":
This guy comes in to make sure we know that although four innocent Jews are dead, it's really Muslims who are the victims:
And the classic deflection:
Here's probably the worst one of them all, eventually deleted:
This one was deleted as well:
This guy comes in to make sure we know that although four innocent Jews are dead, it's really Muslims who are the victims:
And the classic deflection:
And in case you think he's merely "anti-Zionist":
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Another Comment of the Day
The only way I can describe this comment is pathological. It appeared on a new thread about Israel's recent conclusion that Iran has not yet decided to pursue a nuclear bomb:
It's actually quite an amazing insight into the mind of the Israel hater. This guy says that America should help Israel so that we can "cut ties" with them. Which I'm pretty sure is an obvious contradiction. Of course the dehumanizing and genocidal rhetoric is to be expected from Huffington Posters, that's nothing we haven't seen before. In the end he seems to be saying that America should help Israel attack Iran so that Israel will be destroyed and we won't have to be associated with them.
Isn't that so "peaceful?"
It's actually quite an amazing insight into the mind of the Israel hater. This guy says that America should help Israel so that we can "cut ties" with them. Which I'm pretty sure is an obvious contradiction. Of course the dehumanizing and genocidal rhetoric is to be expected from Huffington Posters, that's nothing we haven't seen before. In the end he seems to be saying that America should help Israel attack Iran so that Israel will be destroyed and we won't have to be associated with them.
Isn't that so "peaceful?"
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