Monday, May 31, 2010
The HP Covers Flotilla Clash
I assume by now you have all heard and become well informed about the clash between Israeli naval commandos and Freedom Flotilla people that left several soldiers wounded and nine protesters dead. What we're going to talk about is how the HP covered the story.
First of all, we've got the front page, usually free of Israel-related coverage:
This screengrab doesn't even do it justice, as the pictures at the bottom of this one scroll between several such pictures, including ones of people protesting, pictures of the innocent protesters, etc. It's huge news on the HP, so much so that you'd think everything else in the world (nuclear Iran, North and South Korea heading for war) doesn't matter nearly as much as this. That's not to say the incident is not significant, and in my opinion it deserves the screaming headline. But considering the focus they are putting on the story, they are leaving out a lot of pertinent information. And speaking of the headline, let's talk about what it says. Israeli troops storm an aid ship in international wars, and suddenly 9 are killed. No mention of the attempt by the ships to break the Israeli blockade (illegal under "International Law") or the fact that the activists were unmistakably violent, or in the words of one commando, "they came for war". How about the other headlines? "International outcry" "Israel cancels meeting" "White House concerned". We couldn't mention the fact that the activists were violent and Israeli soldiers were wounded in the headlines? That's kind of important!
Moving on to the Israel section, we've got five (5) different news articles. Two are redundant, Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla and 10 Dead on Aid Ship after Botched Israeli Raid. Then there's three "reaction" and "supplementary" articles, Obama Administration Expresses Concern, Watch Footage from Israeli Raid, and Israeli Boat Raid Causes International Outrage. Again, we've got a bunch of headlines, but NONE of them, not even the footage article which shows activists attacking soldiers, could be bothered to say, "Hey, this isn't a one sided conflict. The activists were violent."
Beyond the news, we have seven (7) blog posts, some of which describe the violence as a "massacre", an "attack", and a series of "murders". None of them tried to take the Israeli side, or point out how the Israeli actions could be justified under international law, and how the activists are to blame for the violence as they started the fighting.
The HP is allowed to cover this news story as much as they want, and have as many bloggers talk about it as they see fit. But it would be nice to see in a story with as many sides as this one a little more of an effort at balanced reporting to be made. I know it's hard to hope for from the HP, but we have to keep hoping the HP will be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
First of all, we've got the front page, usually free of Israel-related coverage:
Moving on to the Israel section, we've got five (5) different news articles. Two are redundant, Israel Attacks Palestinian Aid Flotilla and 10 Dead on Aid Ship after Botched Israeli Raid. Then there's three "reaction" and "supplementary" articles, Obama Administration Expresses Concern, Watch Footage from Israeli Raid, and Israeli Boat Raid Causes International Outrage. Again, we've got a bunch of headlines, but NONE of them, not even the footage article which shows activists attacking soldiers, could be bothered to say, "Hey, this isn't a one sided conflict. The activists were violent."
Beyond the news, we have seven (7) blog posts, some of which describe the violence as a "massacre", an "attack", and a series of "murders". None of them tried to take the Israeli side, or point out how the Israeli actions could be justified under international law, and how the activists are to blame for the violence as they started the fighting.
The HP is allowed to cover this news story as much as they want, and have as many bloggers talk about it as they see fit. But it would be nice to see in a story with as many sides as this one a little more of an effort at balanced reporting to be made. I know it's hard to hope for from the HP, but we have to keep hoping the HP will be part of the solution rather than part of the problem.
Linkdump: More Information on Flotilla Violence
This is still a developing story but Jewish bloggers across the internet have been successful in shining a light on the events of what happened today. The following links make it clear that the so-called "peace activists" on the Gaza boat were armed and ready to attack the IDF soldiers with lethal force. Let's get started.
Elder of Ziyon reports how Free Gaza told the IDF to expect only "symbolic resistance" and that the IDF equipped their soldiers with paintball guns (with pistols as backup) accordingly. Because the Free Gaza people planned this ambush and forced the IDF into an extreme situation, they are the ones to blame for the ensuing deaths and injures. He also has videos of IDF soldiers being beaten with chains, being on the receiving end of Molotov cocktails, stun grenades and lead pipes, and a "peace activist" stabbing one. He also helpfully provides proof that the IDF more than had a legal right to search the ships, as well as this picture of a "peace activist" (from Ha'aretz):
Solomonia has found some videos as well as one of the IDF finding (primitive) weapons aboard the ship after everything was all said and done, as well as the videos of injured IDF soldiers. He also found an article containing more information about everything that happened, as well as one by international law expert Dr. Robbie Sabel explaining why Israel's actions were legal. There is also one that reveals now old information about what flotilla organization Greta Berlin thinks about the Jewish people.
The Augean Stables has found a great video of how the IDF soldiers were greeted when they rappeled down to the ship:
Finally, here is a video (through Elder) of a disturbing display about the Free Gaza ship. It's translated by PMW, so take it with a grain of salt, but I would watch it anyway:
One thing is very clear: The so-called "peaceful activists" came in wanting a fight, and a fight was what they got. Let's see how much of this information makes it to the Huffington Post.
Elder of Ziyon reports how Free Gaza told the IDF to expect only "symbolic resistance" and that the IDF equipped their soldiers with paintball guns (with pistols as backup) accordingly. Because the Free Gaza people planned this ambush and forced the IDF into an extreme situation, they are the ones to blame for the ensuing deaths and injures. He also has videos of IDF soldiers being beaten with chains, being on the receiving end of Molotov cocktails, stun grenades and lead pipes, and a "peace activist" stabbing one. He also helpfully provides proof that the IDF more than had a legal right to search the ships, as well as this picture of a "peace activist" (from Ha'aretz):
Solomonia has found some videos as well as one of the IDF finding (primitive) weapons aboard the ship after everything was all said and done, as well as the videos of injured IDF soldiers. He also found an article containing more information about everything that happened, as well as one by international law expert Dr. Robbie Sabel explaining why Israel's actions were legal. There is also one that reveals now old information about what flotilla organization Greta Berlin thinks about the Jewish people.
The Augean Stables has found a great video of how the IDF soldiers were greeted when they rappeled down to the ship:
Finally, here is a video (through Elder) of a disturbing display about the Free Gaza ship. It's translated by PMW, so take it with a grain of salt, but I would watch it anyway:
One thing is very clear: The so-called "peaceful activists" came in wanting a fight, and a fight was what they got. Let's see how much of this information makes it to the Huffington Post.
Memorial Day!
It's Memorial Day Monday today so we won't be blogging as much until tomorrow, though I will work on a HPW for the flotilla thread. Hope everyone has a great holiday! In the meanwhile, here's a comment for you to enjoy during the break:
HP Spins Coverage of Commando Raid on Flotilla
If you checked the earlier morning newspapers you would find that there was an Israeli raid on the Free Gaza flotilla that ended in violence. Five Israeli soldiers were injured, two seriously, when the "activists" attacked them with knives, iron rods and pistols. Elder of Ziyon is already all over the story with videos of IDF soldiers being stabbed by these "peaceful" activists, as well as a story about how the IDF was completely within it's rights to search the ships under international law.
The thread about it on the Huffington Post has already soared to over 4,000 comments, a new record by any standard. After Memorial Day celebrations we'll get to the thread but I wanted to get this in first, because you can see the HP already spinning it to make Israel look like bloodthirsty psychos. We'll start with the headline from the HP's "main" section, not the world.:
Yes, Israel just up and "attacked" the aid flotilla. Notice how the five injured soldiers are left out of the headline as well, though they did at least make it into the article. Let's go through the article. Here's the first two paragraphs:
The thread about it on the Huffington Post has already soared to over 4,000 comments, a new record by any standard. After Memorial Day celebrations we'll get to the thread but I wanted to get this in first, because you can see the HP already spinning it to make Israel look like bloodthirsty psychos. We'll start with the headline from the HP's "main" section, not the world.:
Yes, Israel just up and "attacked" the aid flotilla. Notice how the five injured soldiers are left out of the headline as well, though they did at least make it into the article. Let's go through the article. Here's the first two paragraphs:
"Israeli naval commandos stormed a flotilla of ships carrying aid and hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists to the blockaded Gaza Strip on Monday, killing at least 10 passengers in a predawn raid that set off worldwide condemnation and a diplomatic crisis...Israel said the forces encountered unexpected resistance as they boarded the vessels. Dozens of passengers and at least five Israeli soldiers were wounded in the confrontation in international waters."It then follows with a lot of descriptions about the "worldwide condemnation" of the incident, and it gets to halfway through before we get the details:
"There were conflicting accounts of what happened early Monday....An Al-Jazeera reporter on one of the Turkish ships said the Israelis fired at the vessel before boarding it. The Israelis, who had declared they would not let the ships reach Gaza, said they only opened fire after being attacked by activists with sticks, knives and live fire from weapons seized from the Israeli commandos."Seeing as how the IDF was careful to get videos, I'm sure an investigation here will exonerate them. But I have to get to Memorial Day celebrations so further discussion will have to wait.
Sunday, May 30, 2010
The Iran Nuclear Three-Step
Reading Zach's post about Iran just now made me think about another example of double talk among the Huffington Posters when it comes to the Iranian nuclear situation. Usually this is a case in which a number of HPers will make the following claims, but if you are perceptive you can find that a single user will contradict himself or herself, sometimes in the same thread.
First the Huffington Posters claim that Iran in fact is not making nuclear weapons at all:
Then they will claim that okay yes, Iran is making nuclear weapons but they are justified because they only want it for self-defense, even though it is forbidden under the non-proliferation treaty.
Finally they will claim that although Iran is justified in making nuclear weapons clandestinely because they need it for self-defense, Israel is not:
News the HP Doesn't Cover: Rhianna in Israel
Remember when the Huffington Post was overjoyed to write about Elvis Costello's decision not to come to Israel?
Well apparently the singer Rhianna is touring Israel in preparation for a concert there. She has called her trip "an amazing, amazing experience." Metallica also performed in Israel earlier this month, and the Pixies and Elton John are scheduled to come. The Huffington Post has yet to cover any of them.
Well apparently the singer Rhianna is touring Israel in preparation for a concert there. She has called her trip "an amazing, amazing experience." Metallica also performed in Israel earlier this month, and the Pixies and Elton John are scheduled to come. The Huffington Post has yet to cover any of them.
Mythbusting: The Nuclear Double Standard
I know that I don't write about the Iran situation very much, because in truth I am not as well informed about it as I am about other subjects. But I did want to tackle one central complaint that I often see in both Israel- and Iran-related threads.Here is an example:
That one is a bit long but it usually goes something like this: "It's not fair that Israel can have nuclear weapons but Iran can't. WAAAAH!" Naturally, this is based on the assumption that Iran is developing nuclear weapons at all but that's a discussion for another time.
In this post I'm going to try to bust some of the myths centered around this argument and explain why the USA is going through with it's plans against the wishes of some of the Huffington Posters:
1. The UN: As much as it's a logical fallacy the appeal to majority makes a lot of sense here. When the UN condemns Israel, the Huffington Posters take that to mean that "the world" hates Israel and what it does. Should the UN sanction Israel, the Huffington Posters cheers will reach the high heavens now that they are secure that "the world community" feels exactly the same as they do.
In contrast, when the UN actually succeeds in sanctioning Iran, all of that gets thrown out the window. Now the UN has been hijacked by the interests of "a select few" or simply just the USA, and doesn't represent the will of the world. If there's any double standard here, that would be where it falls.
In short, the world trusts Israel with nuclear weapons, but they don't trust Iran. And you can take that one to the bank.
2. Trustworthiness: Another common claim by the HPers is that Israel has fought at least one war per decade with it's neighbors while Iran has never started a war in centuries. This is therefore taken to mean that Israel is a war-mongering and bloodthirsty state while Iran is peaceful and would never hurt a fly. This leaves out some key facts:
1. Israel has never used a nuclear weapon even when threatened with annihilation. They have hinted that they might use them, but never did. In contrast, Iran's leaders like to preach "death to Israel" and "death to the USA."
2. Iran did not start the Iran-Iraq war during the '80s, but their behavior during that war is still worth noting. For instance...
a) After Iraq with drew from Iran, Khomenini declared Iran would keep fighting until they could pray at Karbala and Jerusalem. He also declared "There are no conditions. The only condition is that the regime in Baghdad must fall and must be replaced by an Islamic Republic."
b) Iran's use of child soldiers for mine-sweeping, suicide missions and "human wave" attacks. This indicates a lack of caring about ordinary people that might also apply to a nuclear exchange.
c) Iran attacked neutral shipping and placed mines in international waters. Both of which are war crimes.
3. Other than the Iran-Iraq war, Iran has not been involved directly in any other conflicts, as the HPers claim. However, this ignores the now indisputable fact that Iran has been financing and backing Islamic terrorists from Turkey to Mumbai. If Iran can provide SCUD missiles to Hezbollah, why wouldn't they also provide nuclear weapons? Especially when it wouldn't necessarily lead to a counter-attack on them? Huffington Posters claim that Iran only wants the nuclear weapons for self-defense. Iran's support for aggression throughout the region makes them untrustworthy in that respect.
Note: This is exactly why Israel's enemies like MJ Rosenberg are making such a big deal out of the whole "nuclear deal" with South Africa. Because if they can prove that Israel will sell nuclear material, it means that they can't be trusted with them either. We'll see if it works.
3. Realpolitik: As much as it might inflame the brains of the Huffington Posters, there are realpolitik reasons for the West to treat Iran and Israel differently. For instance:
-Israel, as much as we may disagree with what it does, is not known for it's mobs of people chanting "Death to X" where X is some foreign country. Whether or not that it is a common thing in Iran I cannot say, but as I showed above, it does happen. The West knows that Israel is closer toward a Western nation than Iran is. Maybe that's racist, maybe it isn't. But it does affect how they approach the situation.
-Iran can provide a nuclear umbrella that will cover the region. For instance, the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan might have been stopped if Iran had threatened to use nukes. What this could result in is terrorist groups like Al Qaeda operating from Afghanistan who then hide behind the Iranian nuclear umbrella should America try to take the fight to them. I'm sure some might think that it is good that America can't go around invading countries whenever they feel like it. Regardless, it is in America's interests to have freedom of movement in the Middle East and Asia. It is not in their interests to have a nuclear Iran.
-The surrounding Arab nations have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they could at any time attempt to literally wipe Israel off the map. Whether that is a realistic possibility or not, I am not sure. But as long as Israel has nuclear weapons, there will be no more genocidal wars against them, and the West seems to recognize this. Can Iran really the say the same? Finally....
4. Nuclear Arms Race: Though they won't say it, the Arab nations don't trust Iran with a nuclear weapon. This may have something to do with the fact that a) Iran is Shi'ite while the Arab nations are principally Sunni and b) Iran has often tried by proxy to over throw the government of the Arab nations. Regardless, should Iran gain nuclear weapons it is likely that other nations in the area will try to get them as well.
When Israel acquired nuclear weapons there was a similar fear, but it didn't happen. Maybe the same thing will happen with Iran but again it goes to show that Israel has proven itself to be responsible with it's nuclear arsenal over the past three decades. Iran has not.
That one is a bit long but it usually goes something like this: "It's not fair that Israel can have nuclear weapons but Iran can't. WAAAAH!" Naturally, this is based on the assumption that Iran is developing nuclear weapons at all but that's a discussion for another time.
In this post I'm going to try to bust some of the myths centered around this argument and explain why the USA is going through with it's plans against the wishes of some of the Huffington Posters:
1. The UN: As much as it's a logical fallacy the appeal to majority makes a lot of sense here. When the UN condemns Israel, the Huffington Posters take that to mean that "the world" hates Israel and what it does. Should the UN sanction Israel, the Huffington Posters cheers will reach the high heavens now that they are secure that "the world community" feels exactly the same as they do.
In contrast, when the UN actually succeeds in sanctioning Iran, all of that gets thrown out the window. Now the UN has been hijacked by the interests of "a select few" or simply just the USA, and doesn't represent the will of the world. If there's any double standard here, that would be where it falls.
In short, the world trusts Israel with nuclear weapons, but they don't trust Iran. And you can take that one to the bank.
2. Trustworthiness: Another common claim by the HPers is that Israel has fought at least one war per decade with it's neighbors while Iran has never started a war in centuries. This is therefore taken to mean that Israel is a war-mongering and bloodthirsty state while Iran is peaceful and would never hurt a fly. This leaves out some key facts:
1. Israel has never used a nuclear weapon even when threatened with annihilation. They have hinted that they might use them, but never did. In contrast, Iran's leaders like to preach "death to Israel" and "death to the USA."
2. Iran did not start the Iran-Iraq war during the '80s, but their behavior during that war is still worth noting. For instance...
a) After Iraq with drew from Iran, Khomenini declared Iran would keep fighting until they could pray at Karbala and Jerusalem. He also declared "There are no conditions. The only condition is that the regime in Baghdad must fall and must be replaced by an Islamic Republic."
b) Iran's use of child soldiers for mine-sweeping, suicide missions and "human wave" attacks. This indicates a lack of caring about ordinary people that might also apply to a nuclear exchange.
c) Iran attacked neutral shipping and placed mines in international waters. Both of which are war crimes.
3. Other than the Iran-Iraq war, Iran has not been involved directly in any other conflicts, as the HPers claim. However, this ignores the now indisputable fact that Iran has been financing and backing Islamic terrorists from Turkey to Mumbai. If Iran can provide SCUD missiles to Hezbollah, why wouldn't they also provide nuclear weapons? Especially when it wouldn't necessarily lead to a counter-attack on them? Huffington Posters claim that Iran only wants the nuclear weapons for self-defense. Iran's support for aggression throughout the region makes them untrustworthy in that respect.
Note: This is exactly why Israel's enemies like MJ Rosenberg are making such a big deal out of the whole "nuclear deal" with South Africa. Because if they can prove that Israel will sell nuclear material, it means that they can't be trusted with them either. We'll see if it works.
3. Realpolitik: As much as it might inflame the brains of the Huffington Posters, there are realpolitik reasons for the West to treat Iran and Israel differently. For instance:
-Israel, as much as we may disagree with what it does, is not known for it's mobs of people chanting "Death to X" where X is some foreign country. Whether or not that it is a common thing in Iran I cannot say, but as I showed above, it does happen. The West knows that Israel is closer toward a Western nation than Iran is. Maybe that's racist, maybe it isn't. But it does affect how they approach the situation.
-Iran can provide a nuclear umbrella that will cover the region. For instance, the American invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan might have been stopped if Iran had threatened to use nukes. What this could result in is terrorist groups like Al Qaeda operating from Afghanistan who then hide behind the Iranian nuclear umbrella should America try to take the fight to them. I'm sure some might think that it is good that America can't go around invading countries whenever they feel like it. Regardless, it is in America's interests to have freedom of movement in the Middle East and Asia. It is not in their interests to have a nuclear Iran.
-The surrounding Arab nations have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that they could at any time attempt to literally wipe Israel off the map. Whether that is a realistic possibility or not, I am not sure. But as long as Israel has nuclear weapons, there will be no more genocidal wars against them, and the West seems to recognize this. Can Iran really the say the same? Finally....
4. Nuclear Arms Race: Though they won't say it, the Arab nations don't trust Iran with a nuclear weapon. This may have something to do with the fact that a) Iran is Shi'ite while the Arab nations are principally Sunni and b) Iran has often tried by proxy to over throw the government of the Arab nations. Regardless, should Iran gain nuclear weapons it is likely that other nations in the area will try to get them as well.
When Israel acquired nuclear weapons there was a similar fear, but it didn't happen. Maybe the same thing will happen with Iran but again it goes to show that Israel has proven itself to be responsible with it's nuclear arsenal over the past three decades. Iran has not.
The Truth About South Africa
The Anti-Zionists love to advocate for the BDS movement as a way to stop the Israeli occupation. Depending on how extreme their views are, they also advocate for BDS as a way to "end Israeli apartheid." Here is an example:
In other posts skialethia actually claims that "Sanctions brought down South Africa, they will bring down Israel too." I have neither the time nor inclination to go find it though, you'll have to take my word for it.
Anyway, this whole argument is built around the fact that it was international pressure from the international community (in the form of boycotts) as well as UN sanctions that caused the apartheid regime in South Africa to fall. Is this true? No it's not.
CiFWatch found an article that proves it was in fact not the outside world's boycott movement that brought down South Africa's government but the hard work of the people who actually lived there. Things like the African National Congress and the Durban strikes of 1973 are left out of the anti-Zionist narrative. I suggest you read the whole article, it's quite informative.
What this means for us is that it really shows the failure of the AZ (and the Palestinian) strategy of sitting back and waiting for the outside world to solve their problems and force Israel to make peace. Divestthis has been reporting on the continual failure of the BDS movement, and it looks like even if it did succeed there would still be no more progress toward peace. The Palestinian "waiting" strategy has never brought them anything but misery, and it never will. It's time they started working toward peace and meet the Israelis halfway.
In other posts skialethia actually claims that "Sanctions brought down South Africa, they will bring down Israel too." I have neither the time nor inclination to go find it though, you'll have to take my word for it.
Anyway, this whole argument is built around the fact that it was international pressure from the international community (in the form of boycotts) as well as UN sanctions that caused the apartheid regime in South Africa to fall. Is this true? No it's not.
CiFWatch found an article that proves it was in fact not the outside world's boycott movement that brought down South Africa's government but the hard work of the people who actually lived there. Things like the African National Congress and the Durban strikes of 1973 are left out of the anti-Zionist narrative. I suggest you read the whole article, it's quite informative.
What this means for us is that it really shows the failure of the AZ (and the Palestinian) strategy of sitting back and waiting for the outside world to solve their problems and force Israel to make peace. Divestthis has been reporting on the continual failure of the BDS movement, and it looks like even if it did succeed there would still be no more progress toward peace. The Palestinian "waiting" strategy has never brought them anything but misery, and it never will. It's time they started working toward peace and meet the Israelis halfway.
Enlightening Comment of the Day
Gakabani here shows us what the Palestinians are really thinking:
Exactly. While those "uppity" Jews still think they deserve a state of their own, the Palestinians can't possibly compromise with them. Once they're back under Arab rule and regain their "dhimmi" status, only then can we negotiate.
Exactly. While those "uppity" Jews still think they deserve a state of their own, the Palestinians can't possibly compromise with them. Once they're back under Arab rule and regain their "dhimmi" status, only then can we negotiate.
Friday, May 28, 2010
The Short, Sad Saga of "JoshCohen"
"JoshCohen" is a user that has now been banned from the Huffington Post, but I thought I would show you his few comments to demonstrate the kind of anti-Semite that is attracted to the Huffington Post like a moth to a flame. He was around for a few days, at the most, had only around fifty posts, but did attract one fan: Our old buddy skialethia. Without further ado, here are the comments:
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“@philoffal
All good posts and never reported on USA msm.
Of course the Megaphonies here will call YOU a hater now.
Masters of trickey and deceit and twisting things.
They think they are smart but the world is waking up to these reptiles who even use the catchall ''hate'' to play the victim card over and over and over. Reptiles, vermin, not worthy to even be called human beings,.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“THE CHANGING TIDE IN THE JEWISH DIASPORA
* ISRAEL
The stereotypical Jewish mother of yesterday was often heard bragging about …
“My son the doctor ….”
“My son the lawyer ….”
“My son the investment counselor…
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“@philoffal
All good posts and never reported on USA msm.
Of course the Megaphonies here will call YOU a hater now.
Masters of trickey and deceit and twisting things.
They think they are smart but the world is waking up to these reptiles who even use the catchall ''hate'' to play the victim card over and over and over. Reptiles, vermin, not worthy to even be called human beings,.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“THE CHANGING TIDE IN THE JEWISH DIASPORA
* ISRAEL
The stereotypical Jewish mother of yesterday was often heard bragging about …
“My son the doctor ….”
“My son the lawyer ….”
“My son the investment counselor…
HuffpoWatch User Profile: Realtalk7
EDIT: I don't know what's the deal with the giant space below, nor do I have the time to fix it. You're just going to have to scroll past it, sorry.
We have an HPer here for your interest today who is special and unique among the AZs because he is open and honest about his virulent anti-Semitism, realtalk7. He truly believes in the worldwide Jewish conspiracy, laments the Jewish infiltration of US media and government, and knows the Jews are to blame for 9/11 and all US wars. More interesting than this guy himself (as he will no doubt be banned sooner rather than later) are his friends. He has three fans of interest: muck-raker, Backspace2525, and Freenation. These posters, who have a little more staying power, should be confronted with the fact that they are friends with an anti-Semite.
And now onto the posts. If you STILL believe there is no anti-Semitism on the HP, I encourage you especially to read what's below.
We have an HPer here for your interest today who is special and unique among the AZs because he is open and honest about his virulent anti-Semitism, realtalk7. He truly believes in the worldwide Jewish conspiracy, laments the Jewish infiltration of US media and government, and knows the Jews are to blame for 9/11 and all US wars. More interesting than this guy himself (as he will no doubt be banned sooner rather than later) are his friends. He has three fans of interest: muck-raker, Backspace2525, and Freenation. These posters, who have a little more staying power, should be confronted with the fact that they are friends with an anti-Semite.
And now onto the posts. If you STILL believe there is no anti-Semitism on the HP, I encourage you especially to read what's below.
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“what happened to the israeli jew caught in the subway tunnel with cyanide ????? he was dressed as a subway worker and caught inside a subway tunnel at 3 am. why the media blackout?? . 94 percent jewish owned media is a threat to national security.”
Standing Up to the Bulldozers in Palestine
“google jews spitting on american christians visiting israel. these people are human garbage as are their supporters in our country”
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“google 'jewish controll over thinktanks" thats the issue the pakistanis are referring to and the author is purposely not mentioning. these thinktanks are set up to further jewish/israeli interests in our country”
Mitch McConnell On Rand Paul: 'He's Said Quite Enough' To The National Media
“94 percent jewish owned media, and maddow is a jew, thats the problem.rand paul and his father have publically stated they want to sever ties with israel.”
Mitch McConnell On Rand Paul: 'He's Said Quite Enough' To The National Media
“neither ron or rand paul would sell out america to the jewish lobby and for that reason you are going to them skewered in the media. vote ron paul 2012...obama sold us out to aipac and jewish interests and now well be seeing american boys coming back from iran in bodybags”
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“actually facts show germany and muslims both considered the behavior of jews to be manipulative/cruel/and treasonous totheir host countries. google "reasons germany enacted nurenburg laws" it was really quite logical. oh and muslims and christians both revere jesus while jews despise him or any depiction of christ.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“nym22 i agree its like the "jews have been persecuted for no reason" canard similar to the "6 million jews were gassed"canard”[Holocaust denial]
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“google" jews spitting on american christians in israel" that is who the jew is when they are in the majority.jews are the only people who have set up a country to run to when their host countries get fed up with their behavior.country after country has expelled them for the same behavior which is acting as a collective to further jewish interests to the detriment of their host country.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“and if we discriminated against jews we wouldnt have aipac and jewish interests controlling our congress,or have a media that is loyal to israel over america (94 percent jewish owned) and jewish college proffessors like kagan who hired 29 people ALL of them jewish, or the subprime brokerages that destroyed minority communities (96% jewish owned) or pornography( 98% jewish owned) hollywood movies that laugh at and subvert christian family values, banning prayer in school,any mention of jesus in christmas displays or school plays(all acomplished by the jew first anti christian ADL) looks like the arab countries protected their citizens ,if only our leaders did the same”
John D. Mazzuto CHARGED: Former Bank Director Allegedly Part Of $60M Stock Scam
“only non jews get indicted.....96 percent of the sub prime mortgage brokerages were owned by 16 jewish companies. of course no indictments. the wall street firms ??well you know the answer to that”
Ground Zero Mosque Overwhelmingly Approved By NYC Community Board: 'It's A Seed Of Peace' (VIDEO)
“jews have an agenda...to form organizations that influence government representatives in our country such as aipac,jinsa,zoa, ect and also controll 94 percent of all american media to coordinate the "they hate our freedom" farce and make criticism of any israel actions taboo and act as an arm of israeli/jewish interests, and set up websites like giyus/standwithus/ which issues alerts to jews to flock en masse to any news threads relating to israel to clandestinely post pro israel hasbara under the guise of being non jewish americans in order to influence american public opinion. the lesson jews should take away from their experience in ww2 and every other country in the world they have been expelled from for their behavior is ..dont undermine your host country by acting as a collective to further jewish interests at the expense of your host country.not some hokey notion of being persecuted for no reason”
U.S. Media Censors U.S. Support of Iran Fuel Swap
“this is why letting the american media be 94 percent jewish owned is a threat to national security.ask your self a question why is it wherever jews settle they attempt tp buy up and controll the media”
A Self-Defeating Fixation
“They are not paranoid they are simply a cruel manipulative people....its just that simple”
Australia Moves To Expel Israeli Diplomat
“How would america benefit from invading and disarming or destroying if neccessary? how would it affect out terrorism problem? our moral standing in the world? our access to mideast trading markets and our overall economy? ending the iran war push by jewish interests? we were attacked on 9-11 for supporting israeli terror against palestinians as per bim loden, could we end the wars in iraq.afganistan since the terrorists no longer have a reason to terrorize america?? would treasonous orgs like aipac,zoa,jinsa, ect have a reason to exists? Maybe america has only ONE problem that third world toilet called israel. please weigh in even the jewish internet defense league on this thread lol. id like to hear all points of view”
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“what happened to the israeli jew caught in the subway tunnel with cyanide ????? he was dressed as a subway worker and caught inside a subway tunnel at 3 am. why the media blackout?? . 94 percent jewish owned media is a threat to national security.”
Standing Up to the Bulldozers in Palestine
“google jews spitting on american christians visiting israel. these people are human garbage as are their supporters in our country”
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“google 'jewish controll over thinktanks" thats the issue the pakistanis are referring to and the author is purposely not mentioning. these thinktanks are set up to further jewish/israeli interests in our country”
Mitch McConnell On Rand Paul: 'He's Said Quite Enough' To The National Media
“94 percent jewish owned media, and maddow is a jew, thats the problem.rand paul and his father have publically stated they want to sever ties with israel.”
Mitch McConnell On Rand Paul: 'He's Said Quite Enough' To The National Media
“neither ron or rand paul would sell out america to the jewish lobby and for that reason you are going to them skewered in the media. vote ron paul 2012...obama sold us out to aipac and jewish interests and now well be seeing american boys coming back from iran in bodybags”
Faisal Shahzad Conspiracy Theories: Pakistanis Finger 'Think Tanks' As Real Culprits
“actually facts show germany and muslims both considered the behavior of jews to be manipulative/cruel/and treasonous totheir host countries. google "reasons germany enacted nurenburg laws" it was really quite logical. oh and muslims and christians both revere jesus while jews despise him or any depiction of christ.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“nym22 i agree its like the "jews have been persecuted for no reason" canard similar to the "6 million jews were gassed"canard”[Holocaust denial]
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“google" jews spitting on american christians in israel" that is who the jew is when they are in the majority.jews are the only people who have set up a country to run to when their host countries get fed up with their behavior.country after country has expelled them for the same behavior which is acting as a collective to further jewish interests to the detriment of their host country.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“and if we discriminated against jews we wouldnt have aipac and jewish interests controlling our congress,or have a media that is loyal to israel over america (94 percent jewish owned) and jewish college proffessors like kagan who hired 29 people ALL of them jewish, or the subprime brokerages that destroyed minority communities (96% jewish owned) or pornography( 98% jewish owned) hollywood movies that laugh at and subvert christian family values, banning prayer in school,any mention of jesus in christmas displays or school plays(all acomplished by the jew first anti christian ADL) looks like the arab countries protected their citizens ,if only our leaders did the same”
John D. Mazzuto CHARGED: Former Bank Director Allegedly Part Of $60M Stock Scam
“only non jews get indicted.....96 percent of the sub prime mortgage brokerages were owned by 16 jewish companies. of course no indictments. the wall street firms ??well you know the answer to that”
Ground Zero Mosque Overwhelmingly Approved By NYC Community Board: 'It's A Seed Of Peace' (VIDEO)
“jews have an agenda...to form organizations that influence government representatives in our country such as aipac,jinsa,zoa, ect and also controll 94 percent of all american media to coordinate the "they hate our freedom" farce and make criticism of any israel actions taboo and act as an arm of israeli/jewish interests, and set up websites like giyus/standwithus/ which issues alerts to jews to flock en masse to any news threads relating to israel to clandestinely post pro israel hasbara under the guise of being non jewish americans in order to influence american public opinion. the lesson jews should take away from their experience in ww2 and every other country in the world they have been expelled from for their behavior is ..dont undermine your host country by acting as a collective to further jewish interests at the expense of your host country.not some hokey notion of being persecuted for no reason”
U.S. Media Censors U.S. Support of Iran Fuel Swap
“this is why letting the american media be 94 percent jewish owned is a threat to national security.ask your self a question why is it wherever jews settle they attempt tp buy up and controll the media”
A Self-Defeating Fixation
“They are not paranoid they are simply a cruel manipulative people....its just that simple”
Australia Moves To Expel Israeli Diplomat
“How would america benefit from invading and disarming or destroying if neccessary? how would it affect out terrorism problem? our moral standing in the world? our access to mideast trading markets and our overall economy? ending the iran war push by jewish interests? we were attacked on 9-11 for supporting israeli terror against palestinians as per bim loden, could we end the wars in iraq.afganistan since the terrorists no longer have a reason to terrorize america?? would treasonous orgs like aipac,zoa,jinsa, ect have a reason to exists? Maybe america has only ONE problem that third world toilet called israel. please weigh in even the jewish internet defense league on this thread lol. id like to hear all points of view”
Skialethia Proves Her Anti-Semitism
You can click the link for context, it's very enlightening.
Yep, apparently the Jews are overrepresented in the government, and thus she can "rest her case." The post was in response to another response to an equally anti-Semitic post, complaining about Jewish control of the US government and Jewish disloyalty. Likewise, skialethia, I rest my case on you. You have finally proven where you really stand and I for one will not forget this.
Yep, apparently the Jews are overrepresented in the government, and thus she can "rest her case." The post was in response to another response to an equally anti-Semitic post, complaining about Jewish control of the US government and Jewish disloyalty. Likewise, skialethia, I rest my case on you. You have finally proven where you really stand and I for one will not forget this.
"Jews As Zionists"
As soon as I saw this comment I knew I wanted to talk about it:
The original link. If you check out the thread you will see that T-Faz realized that he did not in fact know that "Zionists" meant, and admits that he was wrong. So I don't want anyone to get the impression that I have a problem with him personally.
That being said, this is exactly the kind of thinking which is so prevalent in the anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist discourse today. As I mentioned earlier, one of the causes of anti-Semitism is the reaction of the outside world to Jewish nationalism (aka Zionism). We see that demonstrated very clearly in the discussions on the Huffington Post: Jews who don't assert their national identity are fine and welcomed. Jews who do (or support those who do) are insulted and slandered in all kinds of colorful ways, including the use of old anti-Semitic myths.
In some ways this pattern is not new. As Prager and Telushkin have mentioned, Jews who renounced their beliefs and forsook their people were welcomed by the anti-Semites and no longer hated. In other words, the price of acceptance by the anti-Semites was everything Jewish in that person. Zionism has always been a part of Jewish identity, but it has now taken the place of the Jewish religion in the acid test of acceptance by anti-Semites. A Jew can still be a Jew and be accepted among the AZ Huffington Posters, but he can't be a "Zionist."
And of course, the AZ Huffington Posters will claim that they have legitimate reasons to hate Zionists and Zionism. They can't single out the Jews for denial of their rights without a reason for doing so. Of course the anti-Semites (and racists, bigots, etc) throughout history always claimed they were justified as well. On another level, the anti-Zionists are quick to claim that "not all Jews are Zionists," as if to imply that Zionism is not part of Judaism and always has been. They will wave anti-Zionists Jews like flags while ignoring that the vast majority of Jews (+95%) support Israel's existence, if not it's policies.
Jews, both on the Huffington Post and elsewhere, should not have to choose between supporting their fellow Jews and being the subject of hatred and bigotry, both Jew-specific and otherwise. The hallmark of a free society is that minorities need to be allowed to support themselves and their interests without facing hate. Hating someone for choosing to assert their difference is not much different from hating someone just for being different. Jews are a nation and must be allowed to assert their national identity without fear. Just like every other nation.
The original link. If you check out the thread you will see that T-Faz realized that he did not in fact know that "Zionists" meant, and admits that he was wrong. So I don't want anyone to get the impression that I have a problem with him personally.
That being said, this is exactly the kind of thinking which is so prevalent in the anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist discourse today. As I mentioned earlier, one of the causes of anti-Semitism is the reaction of the outside world to Jewish nationalism (aka Zionism). We see that demonstrated very clearly in the discussions on the Huffington Post: Jews who don't assert their national identity are fine and welcomed. Jews who do (or support those who do) are insulted and slandered in all kinds of colorful ways, including the use of old anti-Semitic myths.
In some ways this pattern is not new. As Prager and Telushkin have mentioned, Jews who renounced their beliefs and forsook their people were welcomed by the anti-Semites and no longer hated. In other words, the price of acceptance by the anti-Semites was everything Jewish in that person. Zionism has always been a part of Jewish identity, but it has now taken the place of the Jewish religion in the acid test of acceptance by anti-Semites. A Jew can still be a Jew and be accepted among the AZ Huffington Posters, but he can't be a "Zionist."
And of course, the AZ Huffington Posters will claim that they have legitimate reasons to hate Zionists and Zionism. They can't single out the Jews for denial of their rights without a reason for doing so. Of course the anti-Semites (and racists, bigots, etc) throughout history always claimed they were justified as well. On another level, the anti-Zionists are quick to claim that "not all Jews are Zionists," as if to imply that Zionism is not part of Judaism and always has been. They will wave anti-Zionists Jews like flags while ignoring that the vast majority of Jews (+95%) support Israel's existence, if not it's policies.
Jews, both on the Huffington Post and elsewhere, should not have to choose between supporting their fellow Jews and being the subject of hatred and bigotry, both Jew-specific and otherwise. The hallmark of a free society is that minorities need to be allowed to support themselves and their interests without facing hate. Hating someone for choosing to assert their difference is not much different from hating someone just for being different. Jews are a nation and must be allowed to assert their national identity without fear. Just like every other nation.
HPW: Netanyahu To Visit White House, Invited by Rahm Emanuel
I've been having trouble keeping up with the latest flurry of Israel-related articles on the Huffington Post. Here is one from earlier this week. Rahm Emanuel, as we noted, went to Israel because of his son's Bar Mitzvah. While there he invited Netanyahu to the White House to try and get peace talks back underway.
The Huffington Posters reaction was basically endless variations on "the Jews control America" watered down for public consumption. You can read the ones below. There were more but I think they were deleted before I went back to the thread to collect it. The thread has about 780 posts and is fully moderated.
gakabani
The MSM is in LaLa land when it comes to Gaza. They are forbidden my their masters to speak about Palestine.
Macready
but I do know Congress is in the pay of the aipac .. so . . . I really think there have to be big protest marches against israel in DC and in every major American city . . . huge disinvestment, etc etc . . . otherwise it will be more of the same old crap while israel continues to steal, lie and kill
MMIIXX
School books and pencils are the weapons that Israel fears the most because knowledge will defeat even the most blood thirsty regime !
raskefing
Wow ! Obama is stronger than i thought . It took all of 7 weeks for his AIPAC to bring him to heel !
poor guy , sic now its back to business as usual !
Jabidi
End of Zionism = Peace
gakabani
WHo is the Boss? Remember the sitcom? Now it comes to you in political terminology. Israel is the BOSS and America the Servant.
Palemoon
What thaw? When were things ever icey?? Rahm and Bibi have been best friends for decades. Looks like business as usual to me. But which one pulls the strings on the puppet Obama?
ManiDeli
It is ironic that Israel’s present behavior is now a main cause for anti-Semitism.
Ospree19
Estee Lauder and Revlon are bigtime Zi onist. Boycott!
Puller58
True enough, but our government has long been under the heel of AIPAC and I see little sign that it can ever change.
kentah
I agree almost totally. My only point of difference is where you call for the expulsion of pro-Israel Jews, I say get rid of everyone in our government that is pro-Israel and puts Israel before the United States, this seems to be the bulk of them as per the various letters signed to voice concern for Israel in the face of silence towards what's happening in the US. But not only the pro-Israelis, anyone that is not in service to the people in any way must go.
LeeCalif
Emanuel is a Double-Agent.
Enroh Mot
Why not it's his house.
Riverhouse
Rahm Emanuel is an Israeli. He served in the Israeli Army. We know where his loyalties lie.
Mainer36
Israel spits in the eye of foe and friend alike. A welfare state through and through, who feels entitled to virtually unlimited support from the US who it publicly humiliates time and time again.
understandtheissues
Here we go again. U.S. government bows down to Israel. Why can they hold this country hostage? Please can one person explain?
Theatrixnyc
He forgot about the harvesting of organs...
MMIIXX
Do you mean how the Office of Special Plans was staffed by mainly jews and they were the ones that pushed the WMD rubbish and the Niger yellow cake rubbish and the Atta /Prague/Iraq meeting rubbish ?
And the story about the over 120 Israeli spies arrest in the days after 911 and particularly the "5 Dancing Israeli's" who admitted on Israeli TV to have foreknowledge of 911 and they "were only documenting the events" of 911.Or that when polygraphed the "5 Dancing Israeli's" failed when asked about 911 .
hpser
There are no rockets falling on Jewish homes because those homes don't belong to Jews in the first place. Now, if rockets were coming down in certain areas of the Bronx, then you got a point.
hpser
tzippi, I went through all your comments on HP and out of 140 posts over 136 are supporting Israel and condemning Palestinians and the remainder were about health care. I am starting to think there is truth to the accusations that Israel aggressively plants posters on progressive websitesnto counter criticism. Are you a plant here or is that you are a one issue person and don't care about anything in the world other than to support the criminal state of Israel? Are you an American or a part of the criminal enterprise of Zionists? It is difficult for me to believe that you come here for that one issue without being a Zionist plant.
hpser
If you want sympathy for the holocaust then you can not support the genocide of Palestinians.
Aarky
Capt-Let's start the movement to initiate a Constitutional Amendment that would prohibit anyone with dual citizenship from being a member of Congress, a Congressional aide, political appointee,Et Cet. We find too many persons with a dual citizenship with a divided sense of loyalty to another country. If they are going to be in these important government positions, their allegiance should be all the way to the USA.
joel123
Its the only Ally screwwwing Americans and getting them into wars to serve Israel only. America is sleeping with the enemy.
AZAFVET
True, we send billions of our own money via the Wall Street Banksters that robbed our 401K's. These folks I'm sure they have dual citizenships.
Kevin Atlanta
No News... Rahm's just delivering another fat Goldman Sachs, FED cosigned certified check for Netanyahu's service.
toxicbrainpoison
Remember the trail of tears, you would thing Israeli's had a bit more compassion!
RMJ50
And are the Israeli's censoring these posts, too?
Wozzeck
Why not just move the White House to Israel?
[response]
Phutseki
Where were you for the past 60 years?? It's already there!
azhermit
how do you conquer a nation without firing a shot? AIPAC.
T-Faz
To Jews as Jews, we hold no malice but to Jews as zionists we hold contempt.
CS GUY
Rahm Emanuel runs this country! David Axlerod programs Rahm every morning.
I'm feel for all who thought Barack was in charge....
Countess
Benjamin Netanyahu is a racist extremist and should be treated as such but instead will get the royal treatment. We are missing a great opportunity to stand up for justice in the middle east but we have chosen to support the oppressor no matter how disgusting their behavior.
realtalk7
and if we discriminated against jews we wouldnt have aipac and jewish interests controlling our congress,or have a media that is loyal to israel over america (94 percent jewish owned) and jewish college proffessors like kagan who hired 29 people ALL of them jewish, or the subprime brokerages that destroyed minority communities (96% jewish owned) or pornography( 98% jewish owned) hollywood movies that laugh at and subvert christian family values, banning prayer in school,any mention of jesus in christmas displays or school plays(all acomplished by the jew first anti christian ADL) looks like the arab countries protected their citizens ,if only our leaders did the same
realtalk7
google" jews spitting on american christians in israel" that is who the jew is when they are in the majority.j
HalEBurton
It is a contrived, grotesque entity that is based on virulent racism, apartheid and an apparent promise from god, when god was doing real estate.
realtalk7
nym22 i agree its like the "jews have been persecuted for no reason" canard similar to the "6 million jews were gassed"canard
Tunde15
Is Rahm Isreali or American? Which is it? Or am I an anti-semite for asking? By the way who is a semite?
Tunde15
Is America being held hostage by the state of Israel? What do they have on us? It's just very bizarre.
joel123
they hate us for supporting an oppressive regime that kills innocent residents to take over their land and sell their organs in the black market.
jollyelle
There are lots of dual citizens of the US/Israel serving in governmental position.
Do we have the right to wonder if they are compromising American Security?
American interests and the interests of Israel are not the same.Ameri
inzailings
That picture of those two together says it all. This is who really runs our government.
who38
[Palestinians are] Abhorred and oppressed by Israelis.
apolloguide
He is a free thinker ...something you might try when come down from that blood-money high your folks so enjoy.
democles
Why doesn't he invite some Palestinian kids without limbs, who picked up illegal Israeli land mines. Can we please cut these bullies off. They provide nothing to the security of this country.
The Huffington Posters reaction was basically endless variations on "the Jews control America" watered down for public consumption. You can read the ones below. There were more but I think they were deleted before I went back to the thread to collect it. The thread has about 780 posts and is fully moderated.
gakabani
The MSM is in LaLa land when it comes to Gaza. They are forbidden my their masters to speak about Palestine.
Macready
but I do know Congress is in the pay of the aipac .. so . . . I really think there have to be big protest marches against israel in DC and in every major American city . . . huge disinvestment, etc etc . . . otherwise it will be more of the same old crap while israel continues to steal, lie and kill
MMIIXX
School books and pencils are the weapons that Israel fears the most because knowledge will defeat even the most blood thirsty regime !
raskefing
Wow ! Obama is stronger than i thought . It took all of 7 weeks for his AIPAC to bring him to heel !
poor guy , sic now its back to business as usual !
Jabidi
End of Zionism = Peace
gakabani
WHo is the Boss? Remember the sitcom? Now it comes to you in political terminology. Israel is the BOSS and America the Servant.
Palemoon
What thaw? When were things ever icey?? Rahm and Bibi have been best friends for decades. Looks like business as usual to me. But which one pulls the strings on the puppet Obama?
ManiDeli
It is ironic that Israel’s present behavior is now a main cause for anti-Semitism.
Ospree19
Estee Lauder and Revlon are bigtime Zi onist. Boycott!
Puller58
True enough, but our government has long been under the heel of AIPAC and I see little sign that it can ever change.
kentah
I agree almost totally. My only point of difference is where you call for the expulsion of pro-Israel Jews, I say get rid of everyone in our government that is pro-Israel and puts Israel before the United States, this seems to be the bulk of them as per the various letters signed to voice concern for Israel in the face of silence towards what's happening in the US. But not only the pro-Israelis, anyone that is not in service to the people in any way must go.
LeeCalif
Emanuel is a Double-Agent.
Enroh Mot
Why not it's his house.
Riverhouse
Rahm Emanuel is an Israeli. He served in the Israeli Army. We know where his loyalties lie.
Mainer36
Israel spits in the eye of foe and friend alike. A welfare state through and through, who feels entitled to virtually unlimited support from the US who it publicly humiliates time and time again.
understandtheissues
Here we go again. U.S. government bows down to Israel. Why can they hold this country hostage? Please can one person explain?
Theatrixnyc
He forgot about the harvesting of organs...
MMIIXX
Do you mean how the Office of Special Plans was staffed by mainly jews and they were the ones that pushed the WMD rubbish and the Niger yellow cake rubbish and the Atta /Prague/Iraq meeting rubbish ?
And the story about the over 120 Israeli spies arrest in the days after 911 and particularly the "5 Dancing Israeli's" who admitted on Israeli TV to have foreknowledge of 911 and they "were only documenting the events" of 911.Or that when polygraphed the "5 Dancing Israeli's" failed when asked about 911 .
hpser
There are no rockets falling on Jewish homes because those homes don't belong to Jews in the first place. Now, if rockets were coming down in certain areas of the Bronx, then you got a point.
hpser
tzippi, I went through all your comments on HP and out of 140 posts over 136 are supporting Israel and condemning Palestinians and the remainder were about health care. I am starting to think there is truth to the accusations that Israel aggressively plants posters on progressive websitesnto counter criticism. Are you a plant here or is that you are a one issue person and don't care about anything in the world other than to support the criminal state of Israel? Are you an American or a part of the criminal enterprise of Zionists? It is difficult for me to believe that you come here for that one issue without being a Zionist plant.
hpser
If you want sympathy for the holocaust then you can not support the genocide of Palestinians.
Aarky
Capt-Let's start the movement to initiate a Constitutional Amendment that would prohibit anyone with dual citizenship from being a member of Congress, a Congressional aide, political appointee,Et Cet. We find too many persons with a dual citizenship with a divided sense of loyalty to another country. If they are going to be in these important government positions, their allegiance should be all the way to the USA.
joel123
Its the only Ally screwwwing Americans and getting them into wars to serve Israel only. America is sleeping with the enemy.
AZAFVET
True, we send billions of our own money via the Wall Street Banksters that robbed our 401K's. These folks I'm sure they have dual citizenships.
Kevin Atlanta
No News... Rahm's just delivering another fat Goldman Sachs, FED cosigned certified check for Netanyahu's service.
toxicbrainpoison
Remember the trail of tears, you would thing Israeli's had a bit more compassion!
RMJ50
And are the Israeli's censoring these posts, too?
Wozzeck
Why not just move the White House to Israel?
[response]
Phutseki
Where were you for the past 60 years?? It's already there!
azhermit
how do you conquer a nation without firing a shot? AIPAC.
T-Faz
To Jews as Jews, we hold no malice but to Jews as zionists we hold contempt.
CS GUY
Rahm Emanuel runs this country! David Axlerod programs Rahm every morning.
I'm feel for all who thought Barack was in charge....
......
Barack is finally showing the true structure of his organization......he's a talking head.
Barack is finally showing the true structure of his organization......he's a talking head.
Countess
Benjamin Netanyahu is a racist extremist and should be treated as such but instead will get the royal treatment. We are missing a great opportunity to stand up for justice in the middle east but we have chosen to support the oppressor no matter how disgusting their behavior.
realtalk7
and if we discriminated against jews we wouldnt have aipac and jewish interests controlling our congress,or have a media that is loyal to israel over america (94 percent jewish owned) and jewish college proffessors like kagan who hired 29 people ALL of them jewish, or the subprime brokerages that destroyed minority communities (96% jewish owned) or pornography( 98% jewish owned) hollywood movies that laugh at and subvert christian family values, banning prayer in school,any mention of jesus in christmas displays or school plays(all acomplished by the jew first anti christian ADL) looks like the arab countries protected their citizens ,if only our leaders did the same
realtalk7
google" jews spitting on american christians in israel" that is who the jew is when they are in the majority.j
ews are the only people who have set up a country to run to when their host countries get fed up with their behavior.country after country has expelled them for the same behavior which is acting as a collective to further jewish interests to the detriment of their host country.
HalEBurton
It is a contrived, grotesque entity that is based on virulent racism, apartheid and an apparent promise from god, when god was doing real estate.
realtalk7
nym22 i agree its like the "jews have been persecuted for no reason" canard similar to the "6 million jews were gassed"canard
Tunde15
Is Rahm Isreali or American? Which is it? Or am I an anti-semite for asking? By the way who is a semite?
Tunde15
Is America being held hostage by the state of Israel? What do they have on us? It's just very bizarre.
joel123
they hate us for supporting an oppressive regime that kills innocent residents to take over their land and sell their organs in the black market.
jollyelle
There are lots of dual citizens of the US/Israel serving in governmental position.
Do we have the right to wonder if they are compromising American Security?
American interests and the interests of Israel are not the same.Ameri
can / Isreali Dual Citizens in the American Government
Here's an old list....it does not include the Congressman and Senators that pledge all loyalty to Israel. One Congressman is quoted as saying, "I can't vote against Israel. Israel is in my DNA"
[a long list follows]
Here's an old list....it does not include the Congressman and Senators that pledge all loyalty to Israel. One Congressman is quoted as saying, "I can't vote against Israel. Israel is in my DNA"
[a long list follows]
inzailings
That picture of those two together says it all. This is who really runs our government.
who38
[Palestinians are] Abhorred and oppressed by Israelis.
apolloguide
He is a free thinker ...something you might try when come down from that blood-money high your folks so enjoy.
democles
Why doesn't he invite some Palestinian kids without limbs, who picked up illegal Israeli land mines. Can we please cut these bullies off. They provide nothing to the security of this country.
McCarthyist Comment of the Day
Yeah, we should definitely get rid of everyone in the government who holds a particular point of view! Heck, why not make the point of view against the law while we're at it ?
The original link.
Thursday, May 27, 2010
The HP's Latest Anti-Semitic Exchange
In the latest Netanyahu visit thread we had the following exchange of posts. Zach screengrabbed it because (hopefully) the whole thing will be scrubbed by the mods. He also had a reply by the user "JoshCohen" that we thought is worth sharing:
Here's the link to the original post. Let's keep this in mind the next time someone says that there is no anti-Semitism or anti-Semites on the Huffington Post.
Here's the link to the original post. Let's keep this in mind the next time someone says that there is no anti-Semitism or anti-Semites on the Huffington Post.
HuffPoWatch User Profile: Chipduyck
Chipduyck is a strictly small-time user, but he has been around in recent threads so I thought I would profile him. In short he spams threads with calls to either "boycott Israel" (yawn) or claims that "Israel will be the death of us all." Of course there is some anti-Semitism thrown in there as well. He only has 41 posts, but I get the impression he has others that have been deleted.
Chipduyck has been active since October 2007. Fans of note include Macready.
Israeli Warplanes Strike Gaza
“Boycott Israel, it worked in South Africa.
How long before Israel kills us all?”
Israeli Academics Denounce Government's Chomsky Ban
“Boycott Israel before it kills us all.”
Noam Chomsky Will Deliver Israel Speech Via Videoconference
“boycott Israel
before they kill us all” [See what I mean?]
Open Letter to J-Street After Their Attack on Elie Wiesel
“GO J STREET !
thank you for standing up to apaic”
[Yet another example of an extreme anti-Zionist who loves J Street.]
Don't Let Terrorists Snatch Victory from the Jaws of Defeat
“what planet are you from?
we are at war with more countries than most can name.
We are becoming the Isreal of the world, hated and condemed to oppress those that want justice.
Our lack of moral world leadership is the problem not "terrorists"
Think U.S. indian wars and you will see we are on the wrong side.”
Schumer: I'm on a Mission From God (to Be Israel's Guardian in Senate)
“boycott Israel”
Lessons From Failed Times Square Bombing
“As long as Israel has an atomic bomb but wont come clean NYC is in danger. Israel will be the death of us all.Imagin
Has Chuck Schumer Ever Criticized Israel or its Leadership in the Way He Just Unloaded on Obama?
“shumer is in love with wall st and Israel
both morally indefendable.”
Yom HaShoah And What It Means For Human Rights
“What about the current ongoing Holocaust against the Palistinians?
No comment?”
Open Letter to Berkeley Students on Their Historic Israeli Divestment Bill
“BOYCOTT ISRAEL
THANK YOU CALIFORNIA”
Open Letter to Berkeley Students on Their Historic Israeli Divestment Bill
“good going!
Boycott Israel Now”
Netanyahu Continues to Hide Behind Hollow Slogans
“BOYCOTT ISRAEL”
Obama's Passover Seder
“Israel is morally bankrupt
stop all aid to Israel and see how tough they act
war war war is the only thing keeping Israel going
without U.S. support we could have peace”
Responding to the New York Times on Israel
“The times is so bias for Israel you cannot get a balanced view.
Israel is a racist state.
Just ask the U.N.
or the rest of the world
We should cut them off of all aid.
no peace will be attained because they cannot seperate church from state
enternal war for them not us”
Israel: Settlement Construction Will Continue In East Jerusalem, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Says
“god save us from Israel”
Israel's Looming War in Gaza: Can Obama Stop It Before It Starts?
“Stop all U.S. support of Israel
It will never be a real country because it
is based on subjugaton of the local population.
Endless war should be stopped by U.N with or without the
U.S senate.”
UNESCO: The Shame of a Disaster Foretold
“I point the finger at the Israel as the problem . Go to the root of the problem. But you cant see past your religious identity. Israel means constant war.”
Chipduyck has been active since October 2007. Fans of note include Macready.
Israeli Warplanes Strike Gaza
“Boycott Israel, it worked in South Africa.
How long before Israel kills us all?”
Israeli Academics Denounce Government's Chomsky Ban
“Boycott Israel before it kills us all.”
Noam Chomsky Will Deliver Israel Speech Via Videoconference
“boycott Israel
before they kill us all” [See what I mean?]
Open Letter to J-Street After Their Attack on Elie Wiesel
“GO J STREET !
thank you for standing up to apaic”
[Yet another example of an extreme anti-Zionist who loves J Street.]
Don't Let Terrorists Snatch Victory from the Jaws of Defeat
“what planet are you from?
we are at war with more countries than most can name.
We are becoming the Isreal of the world, hated and condemed to oppress those that want justice.
Our lack of moral world leadership is the problem not "terrorists"
Think U.S. indian wars and you will see we are on the wrong side.”
Schumer: I'm on a Mission From God (to Be Israel's Guardian in Senate)
“boycott Israel”
Lessons From Failed Times Square Bombing
“As long as Israel has an atomic bomb but wont come clean NYC is in danger. Israel will be the death of us all.Imagin
e no relegion.”
Has Chuck Schumer Ever Criticized Israel or its Leadership in the Way He Just Unloaded on Obama?
“shumer is in love with wall st and Israel
both morally indefendable.”
Yom HaShoah And What It Means For Human Rights
“What about the current ongoing Holocaust against the Palistinians?
No comment?”
Open Letter to Berkeley Students on Their Historic Israeli Divestment Bill
“BOYCOTT ISRAEL
THANK YOU CALIFORNIA”
Open Letter to Berkeley Students on Their Historic Israeli Divestment Bill
“good going!
Boycott Israel Now”
Netanyahu Continues to Hide Behind Hollow Slogans
“BOYCOTT ISRAEL”
Obama's Passover Seder
“Israel is morally bankrupt
stop all aid to Israel and see how tough they act
war war war is the only thing keeping Israel going
without U.S. support we could have peace”
Responding to the New York Times on Israel
“The times is so bias for Israel you cannot get a balanced view.
Israel is a racist state.
Just ask the U.N.
or the rest of the world
We should cut them off of all aid.
no peace will be attained because they cannot seperate church from state
enternal war for them not us”
Israel: Settlement Construction Will Continue In East Jerusalem, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu Says
“god save us from Israel”
Israel's Looming War in Gaza: Can Obama Stop It Before It Starts?
“Stop all U.S. support of Israel
It will never be a real country because it
is based on subjugaton of the local population.
Endless war should be stopped by U.N with or without the
U.S senate.”
UNESCO: The Shame of a Disaster Foretold
“I point the finger at the Israel as the problem . Go to the root of the problem. But you cant see past your religious identity. Israel means constant war.”
Guest Post: Israel's Worth to America
I saw this comment on the Huffington Post yesterday and knew that I needed to share it. In response to the question of why America supports Israel, the user Vlady replied with:
Because.I added the links in case people wanted to go back and check.
"Former Secretary of State, General Alexander Haig, a former Supreme Commander of NATO, refers to Israel as “the largest, most battle-tested and cost-effective US aircraft carrier, which does not require a single US personnel, cannot be sunk and is located at a most critical area for US national security interests.”
General George Keegan, former head of U.S. Air Force Intelligence has publicly declared that “Israel is worth five CIA’s.” He further stated that between 1974 and 1990, Israel received $18.3 billion in U.S. military grants. During the same period Israel provided the U.S. with $50-80 billion
in intelligence, research and development savings, and Soviet weapons systems captured and transferred to the U.S. “"
Blood Libel of the Day
The original link. I don't think it's much of a stretch to say that this kind of a thing surpasses legitimate criticms of Israel and is solidly in the real of blood libel.
HPW: Israeli Warplanes Strike Gaza
If it's deja vu you are experiencing when you read this story, don't be surprised. It's almost a mirror image of this story from April, right down to the picture of the IAF plane. Israel hit targets including a Hamas training camp after (a) a donkey laden with explosive blew up on the Israel-Gaza border and (b) several mortar rounds were fired into Israel. The terror attacks did not make the Huffington Post, the response did.
The HPers reacted in more or less the same way they did last time: It's all Israel's fault, Israel attacked Gaza for no reason, how can you blame the Gazans for fighting back, oh isn't the whole thing just so unfair. At the time I wrote this there were about 450 comments and the thread is fully moderated.
Macready
yes we do Swami Salami . . . but israel controls congress . . so how to we get control of Congress so that it works for the American people . .
Independent1969
How is Gaza any different than what happened in the Warsaw ghetto? The similarities are there and there is a no more perfect example of the abused becoming the abuser.
Higgs Boson
Gaza itself is a death camp ..........
KIVPossum
No, they kill them on the spot. Saves transportation costs
realtalk7
they should of known the risk of being part of a state that kills thousands of innocents because they are non jews.somet
Higgs Boson
Blaming this on President Obama is one of the most absurd things yet . Every President has tried to make peace between Israel and Palestinians to no avail and yet now it is Obama's fault that the two state solution is slipping away . Blame Israeli land greed for the lack of progress . Israel will continue their unabated genocide until all of the Palestinians are gone and no one seems to be willing to hold Israel accountable for their atrocities .
Higgs Boson
Israel is no ally of America , just ask the sailors from the USS Liberty . What has Israel ever done for America except take our money and thumb their nose at us . Prescott Bush funneled money to Germany even after the wars started and had his banks confiscated for working with the enemy . The holocaust IS upon us , just ask the Palestinians . It ticks me off every time I hear someone use the term " never again " because apparently the term only applies to Jewish people .
Rosewren
Have you ever watched these videos about the MoneyMasters.
http://vid
It is about three hours total but well worth the time.
cliffhammond
Okay, let's let your accusation stand. Given that you are speaking to a formerly strident supporter of Israel's right to exist, what do you supposed changed my stubborn mind about them? You must at least concede that Israel has a huge PR problem on their hands and for every Chomsky they ban or Goldberg they demean, millions see their infamy and turn to oppose them.
cliffhammond
I don't get why Hamas would use such silly rockets unless individual hot heads are doing this on their own. Look at the consequence. Their only benefit is to get the attention of the press and look who control the media message. Doesn't make sense unless they are of the very same spirit of the desperate who defended Masada so stubbornly that they refused to grant the Romans the final pleasure of their blood lust, or perhaps the spirit of hopeless rebellion demonstrated by those proud few who remained of the Warsaw Ghetto. The Israelis obviously do not recognize the tragic irony they portray as they now become the perpetrators of madness.
banker67
Yeah, napalm those women and children, drop those bunker busters on those hospitals, show those sub-humans what real uber-menchen can do when they work the will of a superior race!
No wait. Haven't we heard that before somewhere?
Oh well, who cares about history when you can fly neato jets with no chance of the smallest danger to yourself.
[response]
cliffhammond
They had good teachers! And now, we're learning from THEM!
[response]
Higgs Boson
The israeli's are using the same " solution " that was used on them
cliffhammond
When it comes to topics about the "I" country, I'm convinced they're using a "dark" list of folks not known to be in step with the party line dictated to our congress and the media.
cliffhammond
I'd like to know where those prisoners in that concentration camp tat they call Gaza got hold of a weapon of mass destruction like a donkey cart? They need to fire the warden.
cliffhammond
He's also forgetting who controls the media.
AnotherMcIntosh
Your tax dollars at work.
If the Israelis are God's chosen people, why can't they get their money directly from China?
Why do they need the help of "our" politicians?
Swami Salami
is easy being a brat with someone else money. stop giving OUR money to warmongering israel NOW!
cabinetmaniac
Those F-16s are very effective at killing civilians.
tyruler
I saw it, and its just heartbreaking. They don't have souls and have lost their moral compass. May God never make me one of them. Amen.
GlenRast
Last time I checked Hamas wasn't in the West Bank. But hey don't let that little fact bother your blind support of Israel's atrocities.
Higgs Boson
American made F-16's used by Israel against defenseless civilians in Gaza .......... AGAIN !
RubalKhali
I suppose hospital patients shouldn't be thought of as needing treatment either.Babies are legitimate targets to the IDF
[response]
Anbreen
Babies make good practice! For phosphorus bombs. Ask the Lebanese.
Jimbo23
So 15 civilians get blasted by a high tech bomb dropped from an advanced warplane in retaliation for an exploding donkey cart that injured no one? To Israel Palestinian life is too cheap in my opinion.
Anbreen
Israel decided to let them [Free Gaza] in. Israel is going to show them Palestine, providing them with a nice lunch on the spot where Rachel Corrie was murdered. Then, they will show the Freedom Flotilla how the bulldozers work......
bill123456
cant think of anything more offensive than people calling themselves the chosen people
LINY01
When is Israel not striking gaza? On and on it goes and the world does nothing.
skialethia
Looks to me like Israel is worried cause Hamas isn't firing rockets anymore and the Hasbara talking point is getting lamer every day. What do the IDF do when they're bored? They shoot at the fish in a barrel...rather the prison camp next door.
american-dolt
More disturbing News from the Israelis. My guess is the hole was blown in the wall so the Palestinians could get from point A to point B.
They have NO SHAME.
TheMindlessConsumer
Another day, another Isr@eli w@rcrime, another slew of zi0nist religious freak supporters of the worlds #1 terorist state, blaming the women and children of Gaza for not getting out of the way of the F-16.
Good to see this story completely buried, like pretty much every story of Israeli w@rcrimes.
Nice to know I have to misspell words to make it past the censorship here. Free speech at its finest, as long as its approved. Too much truth is not permitted.
tyruler
And AP will believe Isr@eli w@rcriminals that they attacked a Hamas "training camp" and they'll print that verbatim without fact check on the ground.
But then again how can they when Isr@el blockades all foreign media so the world can't see its w@rcrimes.
j0em0mma
Ick Fusreal
Hank007
So in other words, the Palestinians should just let themselves be herded into camps, and slowly exterminated, while the world watches, and the US pays for it.
Mainer36
nothing more zealous than a convert i guess. No use in arguing with you [I highly suggest you click for context.]
Hank007
No, the underdog happens to be a group of people who have had everything they own stolen, and have been rounded up into camps for extermination. Only these underdogs at least have the cubes to fight back.
chipduyck
Boycott Israel, it worked in South Africa.
How long before Israel kills us all?
RubalKhali
Israel has already said Uncle, "Uncle Sam I need more money, guns, ammo, planes and a nice new missle system. And if I don't get it you are out of office next election."
Hollys11
Morals....
RnR
There's nothing like a spoiled rotten bully.
Mishaal Zeera
Sickening. The usual Israeli BS.
[response]
KIVPossum
You notice the usual Israeli apologists are strangely absent in this thread
Tony Lunchmeat
Yeah, because with the Israeli jack boot on the necks of the native Palestinians, it is those people struggling to breathe that are at fault for the actions of the blood-thirsty jack-booted bully.
KIVPossum
f-16s against donkey carts. :( The victims of Palestine don't have a chance. When will the world bring this rogue nation under control?
Tony Lunchmeat
Because she and Obama and the rest of the American political establishment is bought and paid for by the pro-Israeli lobby.
RubalKhali
Usual response by Israel for an attack that did no damage. Go after the civilians.
Wisdo
Perhaps the Israelis shouldnt imprison a million people and force them to suffer increasingly every single day, bombing and shooting and starving them.
Perhaps the Isralis should realise that the world is watching their increasingly paranoid governments actions and coming to the conclusion that they "never learn" and need to be taught a painful and permanent lesson in the form of UN sanctions and an imposed, enforced return to the green line, the dismantlement of its wretched ghetto walls and a total end to the US billions which allow them to lord it over people with a brutality not seen since the middle ages.
Wisdo
the usual racist hate.
Also, not only are they being starved - with over half of Gazans living in EXTREME POVERTY and malnutrition climbing over 10%, but Sewage and water treatment facilities remain non-existant, leading to huge rises in cancers and kidney diseases. More of Israels crimes against humanity.
The HPers reacted in more or less the same way they did last time: It's all Israel's fault, Israel attacked Gaza for no reason, how can you blame the Gazans for fighting back, oh isn't the whole thing just so unfair. At the time I wrote this there were about 450 comments and the thread is fully moderated.
Macready
yes we do Swami Salami . . . but israel controls congress . . so how to we get control of Congress so that it works for the American people . .
Independent1969
How is Gaza any different than what happened in the Warsaw ghetto? The similarities are there and there is a no more perfect example of the abused becoming the abuser.
Higgs Boson
Gaza itself is a death camp ..........
KIVPossum
No, they kill them on the spot. Saves transportation costs
realtalk7
they should of known the risk of being part of a state that kills thousands of innocents because they are non jews.somet
Higgs Boson
Blaming this on President Obama is one of the most absurd things yet . Every President has tried to make peace between Israel and Palestinians to no avail and yet now it is Obama's fault that the two state solution is slipping away . Blame Israeli land greed for the lack of progress . Israel will continue their unabated genocide until all of the Palestinians are gone and no one seems to be willing to hold Israel accountable for their atrocities .
Higgs Boson
Israel is no ally of America , just ask the sailors from the USS Liberty . What has Israel ever done for America except take our money and thumb their nose at us . Prescott Bush funneled money to Germany even after the wars started and had his banks confiscated for working with the enemy . The holocaust IS upon us , just ask the Palestinians . It ticks me off every time I hear someone use the term " never again " because apparently the term only applies to Jewish people .
Rosewren
Have you ever watched these videos about the MoneyMasters.
http://vid
It is about three hours total but well worth the time.
cliffhammond
Okay, let's let your accusation stand. Given that you are speaking to a formerly strident supporter of Israel's right to exist, what do you supposed changed my stubborn mind about them? You must at least concede that Israel has a huge PR problem on their hands and for every Chomsky they ban or Goldberg they demean, millions see their infamy and turn to oppose them.
cliffhammond
I don't get why Hamas would use such silly rockets unless individual hot heads are doing this on their own. Look at the consequence. Their only benefit is to get the attention of the press and look who control the media message. Doesn't make sense unless they are of the very same spirit of the desperate who defended Masada so stubbornly that they refused to grant the Romans the final pleasure of their blood lust, or perhaps the spirit of hopeless rebellion demonstrated by those proud few who remained of the Warsaw Ghetto. The Israelis obviously do not recognize the tragic irony they portray as they now become the perpetrators of madness.
banker67
Yeah, napalm those women and children, drop those bunker busters on those hospitals, show those sub-humans what real uber-menchen can do when they work the will of a superior race!
No wait. Haven't we heard that before somewhere?
Oh well, who cares about history when you can fly neato jets with no chance of the smallest danger to yourself.
[response]
cliffhammond
They had good teachers! And now, we're learning from THEM!
[response]
Higgs Boson
The israeli's are using the same " solution " that was used on them
cliffhammond
When it comes to topics about the "I" country, I'm convinced they're using a "dark" list of folks not known to be in step with the party line dictated to our congress and the media.
cliffhammond
I'd like to know where those prisoners in that concentration camp tat they call Gaza got hold of a weapon of mass destruction like a donkey cart? They need to fire the warden.
cliffhammond
He's also forgetting who controls the media.
AnotherMcIntosh
Your tax dollars at work.
If the Israelis are God's chosen people, why can't they get their money directly from China?
Why do they need the help of "our" politicians?
Swami Salami
is easy being a brat with someone else money. stop giving OUR money to warmongering israel NOW!
cabinetmaniac
Those F-16s are very effective at killing civilians.
tyruler
I saw it, and its just heartbreaking. They don't have souls and have lost their moral compass. May God never make me one of them. Amen.
GlenRast
Last time I checked Hamas wasn't in the West Bank. But hey don't let that little fact bother your blind support of Israel's atrocities.
Higgs Boson
American made F-16's used by Israel against defenseless civilians in Gaza .......... AGAIN !
RubalKhali
I suppose hospital patients shouldn't be thought of as needing treatment either.Babies are legitimate targets to the IDF
[response]
Anbreen
Babies make good practice! For phosphorus bombs. Ask the Lebanese.
Jimbo23
So 15 civilians get blasted by a high tech bomb dropped from an advanced warplane in retaliation for an exploding donkey cart that injured no one? To Israel Palestinian life is too cheap in my opinion.
Anbreen
Israel decided to let them [Free Gaza] in. Israel is going to show them Palestine, providing them with a nice lunch on the spot where Rachel Corrie was murdered. Then, they will show the Freedom Flotilla how the bulldozers work......
..;-)
bill123456
cant think of anything more offensive than people calling themselves the chosen people
LINY01
When is Israel not striking gaza? On and on it goes and the world does nothing.
skialethia
Looks to me like Israel is worried cause Hamas isn't firing rockets anymore and the Hasbara talking point is getting lamer every day. What do the IDF do when they're bored? They shoot at the fish in a barrel...rather the prison camp next door.
Fortunately, help is on the way led by the "Rachel Corrie" and backed by Turkey. Israel better behave! The world is watching!!
american-dolt
More disturbing News from the Israelis. My guess is the hole was blown in the wall so the Palestinians could get from point A to point B.
They have NO SHAME.
TheMindlessConsumer
Another day, another Isr@eli w@rcrime, another slew of zi0nist religious freak supporters of the worlds #1 terorist state, blaming the women and children of Gaza for not getting out of the way of the F-16.
Good to see this story completely buried, like pretty much every story of Israeli w@rcrimes.
Nice to know I have to misspell words to make it past the censorship here. Free speech at its finest, as long as its approved. Too much truth is not permitted.
tyruler
And AP will believe Isr@eli w@rcriminals that they attacked a Hamas "training camp" and they'll print that verbatim without fact check on the ground.
But then again how can they when Isr@el blockades all foreign media so the world can't see its w@rcrimes.
j0em0mma
Ick Fusreal
Hank007
So in other words, the Palestinians should just let themselves be herded into camps, and slowly exterminated, while the world watches, and the US pays for it.
Mainer36
nothing more zealous than a convert i guess. No use in arguing with you [I highly suggest you click for context.]
Hank007
No, the underdog happens to be a group of people who have had everything they own stolen, and have been rounded up into camps for extermination. Only these underdogs at least have the cubes to fight back.
chipduyck
Boycott Israel, it worked in South Africa.
How long before Israel kills us all?
RubalKhali
Israel has already said Uncle, "Uncle Sam I need more money, guns, ammo, planes and a nice new missle system. And if I don't get it you are out of office next election."
Hollys11
Morals....
ethics...they are devoid of these values!
RnR
There's nothing like a spoiled rotten bully.
Mishaal Zeera
Sickening. The usual Israeli BS.
[response]
KIVPossum
You notice the usual Israeli apologists are strangely absent in this thread
Tony Lunchmeat
Yeah, because with the Israeli jack boot on the necks of the native Palestinians, it is those people struggling to breathe that are at fault for the actions of the blood-thirsty jack-booted bully.
KIVPossum
f-16s against donkey carts. :( The victims of Palestine don't have a chance. When will the world bring this rogue nation under control?
Tony Lunchmeat
Because she and Obama and the rest of the American political establishment is bought and paid for by the pro-Israeli lobby.
RubalKhali
Usual response by Israel for an attack that did no damage. Go after the civilians.
Wisdo
Perhaps the Israelis shouldnt imprison a million people and force them to suffer increasingly every single day, bombing and shooting and starving them.
Perhaps the Isralis should realise that the world is watching their increasingly paranoid governments actions and coming to the conclusion that they "never learn" and need to be taught a painful and permanent lesson in the form of UN sanctions and an imposed, enforced return to the green line, the dismantlement of its wretched ghetto walls and a total end to the US billions which allow them to lord it over people with a brutality not seen since the middle ages.
Wisdo
the usual racist hate.
Also, not only are they being starved - with over half of Gazans living in EXTREME POVERTY and malnutrition climbing over 10%, but Sewage and water treatment facilities remain non-existant, leading to huge rises in cancers and kidney diseases. More of Israels crimes against humanity.
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The list was endless….
Today one hears …
“My son the organ trafficker….”
“My son the extortionist ….”
“My son the drug dealer ….”
Again, the list is endless….
What’s gone wrong???
ISRAEL!!! That’s what’s gone wrong!”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“Exactly...
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“of course not. I am orthodox Christian ,. ex Jew religion.,
Eastern European background.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“http://www.realzionistnews.com/
My brother Nathaniel Kapner can tell you at this site.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“Megaphonies are here in force spreading disinfo.
So obviouis.”
Netanyahu To Visit White House, Is Invited By Rahm
“If push comes to shove and Israel drops Israel , Israel will attack the USA.
You think they are your friends? Think again.
They only care about ONE thing.....
I am an exJew converted to Jesus. so I KNOW how they think....even my family which has now disowned me.”